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>> for an incredibly savvy, clever almost a criminal genius that el chapo guzman was, he ultimately was done in by very simple tastes. >> whitaker: what do you mean? >> tacos, tequila and chicas. >> turn someone to your right and left, remind them i love you! >> "i love you!" >> scott pelley: the day begins with a chant they call "the affirmation." >> you can be -- >> pelley: you can be any good thing you want to be. go and conquer.
>> go...and...conquer! happy thursday! >> pelley: and if you don't see discipline, just watch. senior group leader bruce davis has order in the palm of his hand. >> sharyn alfonsi: bubba watson is left-handed, self-taught and has won the masters twice. a pretty amazing story, but you haven't heard the half of it. >> i have a lot of mental issues that i just have been so fearful of things which i shouldn't be, right? scared of heights, scared of buildings falling on me, scared of the dark, scared of crowds, those are my biggest issues. >> alfonsi: how do you reconcile that when you have to go out there and play golf with hundreds of people all around you? >> bubba! >> i am just scared of people. >> i'm steve kroft.
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>> bill whitaker: the notorious narco known as el chapo has achieved one of his greatest aspirations. he is the most famous drug lord of all time. in february, we aired this, our fourth "60 minutes" story about el chapo-whose real name is joaquin guzman. our first story came when he was captured after 13 years on the run. we told you then that el chapo- spanish for 'shorty'-was on forbes list of billionaires and had earned an outsized reputation for his worldwide smuggling empire, his ruthless brutality and most of all, for his daring getaways-- like the one we told you about last year- - when he vanished from a maximum security mexican prison through one of his trademark escape tunnels. then there was our interview with actor sean penn, who met guzman at a hideaway last fall. after el chapo's stunning prison
break, many thought he'd never get caught again. but he was. how? you're about to see. where in the pantheon of drug traffickers, drug lords, does el chapo fall? >> peter vincent: el chapo resides at the very top of that hierarchy. >> whitaker: peter vincent was a senior official and legal adviser of both the justice department and homeland security during the international manhunt for guzman. he says after the daring escape last summer, el chapo became almost delusional. so what precipitated his downfall? vincent: he became drunk on his own wine. he started to believe the hype that he was special, that he was almost a demigod, that he was something truly magical. and he became so incredibly arrogant that he thought he was untouchable.
>> whitaker: jim dinkins agrees. as chief of homeland security investigations, he was part of the u.s./mexico task force that nabbed el chapo in 2014. >> jim dinkins: he knew how he was captured last time. and so he had the upper hand, right. he had all the cards in his hand to go off into the sunset and to learn from his mistake. but he just couldn't help himself, and he remained in the public eye. >> whitaker: after his first escape from prison in 2001, guzman virtually disappeared from sight for 13 years. but not this time. >> dinkins: here he gets out of prison, and he's on the road being spotted at this-- place having, you know, drinks, and this place, you know-- with his family members. >> whitaker: he invited sean penn, and the actress kate del castillo to come in to see him. >> dinkins: yeah. >> whitaker: did mexican law enforcement know that these two
actors were going in to see el chapo? >> dinkins: oh, absolutely. they knew that sh-- where sean was going to go, when he was going to land. they knew right away. >> whitaker: how did they know? because they were listening in on the cartel's communications, and watching. mexican and u.s. law enforcement re-formed the task force that caught el chapo the last time. they were tracking not just guzman, but everyone in his inner circle, including his cook. and everyone his lieutenants contacted, including sean penn. did he become sloppy? >> dinkins: definitely. there was more sightings of him in the last six months than there was in the last ten years of before he was captured in 2014. >> whitaker: after he escaped the last time, you told us that you were not confident that he would ever be captured again. >> dinkins: yeah. >> whitaker: that el chapo had become a smarter criminal. did you overestimate his intelligence? >> dinkins: i truly did. here he had over a year in prison, i presumed he was using that same amount of time to
think about how he was going to remain a fugitive for the rest of his life. >> whitaker: mexican officials told us that only twenty days after his escape, the marines picked up on guzman's trail. >> vincent: they created an even smaller team of mexican marines, a search bloc, and they focused on the prize at hand. that was capturing el chapo guzman alive, if they absolutely could. >> whitaker: their first opportunity came in early october, just days after sean penn's visit. the marines told us they waited because they didn't want the american actor caught in the cross fire. a team of marines approached one of el chapo's mountain top ranches by jungle road, while another group of commandos flew in by helicopter. so what went wrong on that october mission? >> vincent: as i understand it, despite all of el chapo guzman's bravado of being a macho, very powerful man, he was running with a child in his arms. >> whitaker: a human shield. a baby as a shield?
>> vincent: that's the only way that one can rationally see it. >> whitaker: so once again, el chapo got away. in early december, intelligence led the marines to this house in the sleepy coastal town of los mochis in northern sinaloa. wiretap intercepts talked about a visit planned by "grandma and aunt"-- code names for el chapo and his lieutenant--known as "cholo ivan". the marines watched the house for a month as painters and construction crews came and went. then on the morning of thursday, january seventh, "grandma" finally showed up. an assault force quickly moved into position nearby. that evening, someone in the house called out for a large order of tacos and this armored truck left to go pick up the food. chapo was having a party. >> vincent: for an incredibly savvy, clever, almost a criminal
genius that el chapo guzman was, he ultimately was done in by very simple tastes. >> whitaker: what do you mean? >> vincent: tacos, tequila, and chicas. >> whitaker: at 4:40 a.m. in the pre-dawn hours of friday, january eighth, the marines began battering down the gate of chapo's safe house. we've concealed the identities of the commando leaders for their safety. >> bravo( translated ): so when we first knock on the door of this house, the shooting started. >> whitaker: a fierce gun battle erupted. the first marine through the door was shot in the arm. i watched the videotape. it's very intense. >> alpha( translated ): chapo's people inside the house were firing high-caliber rounds, grenades. so it was like a war zone.
>> whitaker: the marines moved methodically through the house. chapo's henchmen retreated up the stairs. just inside the door, one gunman lay dead. down the hall, four more taken prisoner and the commandos quickly check a walk-in closet covered with full-length mirrors. up the stairs, the marines find two women, one of them the cook, cowering on the bathroom floor. outside the house, more commandos fought it out with gunmen who fled across the roof tops. when it was over, there were five cartel members dead and six in custody. but once again, chapo-- with cholo ivan--had vanished. a couple of days later, the marines took us to the safehouse in los mochis in an armed convoy. here, just inside the gate, a pool of blood where the marine was shot. sangre. blood. and inside the door, more
bloodstains, the walls pock- marked with bullet holes and the scars of exploding shrapnel. and remember that walk in closet? the mirrors masked a hidden door. behind the secret door, the entrance to one of el chapo's trademark tunnels. it's connected to a network of storm drains and sewers. it was 45 minutes before they found chapo's escape route and that morning the marines gave chase. >> alpha( translated ): we intensified the search inside the tunnels, opening the manhole covers, and inserting people in those sewers. >> whitaker: then it started raining, hard. >> bravo( translated ): after 20 minutes of rain, we thought the chapo might drown in the in the sewers because of the high level of the water. >> whitaker: so he popped up out of the manhole right in the middle of a busy street. >> bravo( translated ): that was his only option.
>> whitaker: this is where he came out. he popped up the manhole cover. it's about a half mile from the house, straight down that road there. look carefully at this security camera footage from the gas station across the street. at 8:55 am-- four hours after the first shots were exchanged-- right there, you can see chapo and cholo ivan climbing out of the sewer. and then in this cell phone video, you can see them carjack a white v.w. jetta and speed away. the fugitives got only three blocks before the jetta broke down. so they jacked a second car, a red ford focus, but only a couple of miles out of town that car broke down. within minutes, the federal emergency center got two reports of hijacked vehicles. on the highway out of town, the marines found the ford already on the bed of a tow-truck. but no sign of chapo or his lieutenant. they had been picked up by the federal police and taken to a
nearby motel. what were they doing in the backseat of the police car? >> alpha( translated ): they weren't talking. they were relaxed. but they looked confused. >> whitaker: no one knows why the federal police took chapo to the motel instead of to jail, but peter vincent has a theory. >> vincent: el chapo undoubtedly said, "one, you let me go now and i will make you wealthier beyond your wild imaginations. if you should choose to decline my most generous offer, i am not only going to kill you but i am going to rape and kill your wife and your daughters and i'm going to torture your sons." >> whitaker: he has behaved like that in the past? >> vincent: he has behaved like that virtually his entire criminal career. >> whitaker: bribes and threats. >> vincent: bribes and threats, bribes and bullets. and luckily the mexican marines
showed up, realized what was going on and took control of the situation. >> whitaker: chapo was flown to mexico city for booking. he was paraded before reporters and returned to altiplano, the same prison from which he escaped last july. >> vincent: this time, he is rotated from cell to cell to cell. guards are circulated every 15 minutes, through whatever cell he happens to be occupying on that particular day. >> whitaker: the u.s. justice department wants guzman extradited, brought here to face charges for his crimes. seven separate jurisdictions, including new york, chicago and san diego, all want to put el chapo on trial. juan pedro badillo is a lawyer who only has one client: el chapo. he warns extradition can be a lengthy process. how long do you think the whole extradition legal proceedings
will go on? >> juan pedro badillo ( translated ): ten, 15, 20 years perhaps. or it could be one or two years. >> vincent: el chapo guzman knows that, if he is ultimately extradited to the united states it's essentially game over for him. >> whitaker: soon after chapo's arrest, the u.s.-mexico task force captured another two dozen sinaloa cartel members. >> vincent: it sends an incredibly powerful message to current kingpins, to future narco-traffickers that you may run, you may hide but ultimately this multinational force will track you down from the highest mountains or the deepest, darkest jungles, or through the stinking sewers of towns and cities anywhere in the world, and bring you to justice. >> whitaker: after the united states guaranteed el chapo would not face the death penalty for his crimes, mexico agreed to send him here for trial.
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before newark had a skyline, st. benedict's red brick campus rose on a hill. over decades, its walls have grown but it's no citadel against the world. >> ♪ always want to be a hero, hero! now i've got me a hero, hero! ♪ >> pelley: inside is the inner city. half the boys are black, another third hispanic, and nearly all come from low income neighborhoods. they call each other "brother" and every morning all 550, grades seven through 12, celebrate a revival. >> turn to somebody on your right and left and remind them, i love you! >> i love you! >> pelley: their day begins with a chant they call "the affirmation." >> you can be! you can be! >> pelley: you can be any good thing you want to be. "go and conquer."
>> you...go...and conquer! happy thursday. >> pelley: and if you don't see discipline, just watch. senior group leader bruce davis has order in the palm of his hand. >> hands down. group leaders, stand for attendance. >> pelley: this is a large part of what makes st. benedict's rare and successful. students are required to run much of the school. davis is their elected leader. >> bruce davis: benedict's men are different than the guys you see outside, you know every single day. we learn what we're willing to accept, which is nothing but the best, nothing but finishing what we started. >> pelley: students are organized into groups that compete for the top grades so the boys press each other to study. the student groups coordinate events and set the schedules.
>> whatever hurts my brother, hurts me. >> pelley: that's the school motto, "whatever hurts my brother, hurts me." if one guy is missing you know about it? >> davis: i know who's missing, yeah. >> pelley: you ever send a team out to go find somebody who's out on the street? >> davis: that's exactly. you know, if he's out, if the parents don't know where he is, we have to find him cause he has to be in school. >> pelley: putting students in charge was a revelation, nearly 50 years ago of this benedictine monk, headmaster edwin leahy. >> edwin leahy: it's a population that never gets to have control. >> pelley: with the kids running their school i wonder how often do you have to get in front of a really bad decision? >> leahy: you hope you can sort them out afterwards. >> pelley: afterwards, you let them make a mistake? >> leahy: yeah, because-- yeah, that's a better learning experience for them. >> pelley: you know there are teachers and administrators watching this interview right now who are saying he is describing chaos.
>> leahy: i guess. >> pelley: chaos wasn't tolerated when leahy was a student here in the "white old days" of 1959. he joined the faculty shortly after the riots in '67 when white families were fleeing newark. and the decision was made to close the school. >> leahy: 1972, difficult decision. >> pelley: and there was talk of closing the monastery itself. >> leahy: there was some who wanted to do that and move it somewhere else, yeah. >> pelley: not you. >> leahy: no, not me. >> pelley: the school closed for one year. then, leahy, at age 26, decided to try again. >> leahy: i didn't think it was right to be participating in the racism, to allow people outside to think that somehow that the school closed because of african americans, the increasing number of african americans. >> you didn't do anything to get the talent, somehow god gave it to you. >> pelley: he had no idea how to run a school. but he took inspiration from the good book, the boy scout
handbook, which organizes boys to lead themselves. >> leahy: who's the assistant headmaster? >> pelley: for incoming freshmen, there is a boot camp. and during a sleepover in the gym they learn st. benedict's history and what's expected. >> ♪ ever dear saint benedict's ♪ >> davis: you need to be on the same page or else you will do it again! >> pelley: it can feel more like marine corps than common core. >> you follow me, on me. on me. on me. >> pelley: ten years ago, a graduate enlisted midshipmen from the u.s. naval academy to add their "inspiration." >> midshipmen, get back there and start again! move! >> pelley: we got the sense the guys would have been happier without the help. >> why you on your knees while your brothers are pushing? >> davis: the main point is to make the freshmen, or the incoming freshmen, realize that the guys around him are there for him no matter how hard the situation can get.
>> pelley: traumatized? not really. the boy scouts do it, the marine corps does it, street gangs do it. >> leahy: all the same thing. and it has the same structure as a gang except you can only be in one gang. you can only be in ours. if you're in another gang here in newark then you can't be here. >> pelley: st. benedict's is private. the school year is 11 months. and there is an entrance exam, but exceptions are made as you will see a little later. a bigger barrier to families would be the annual tuition of $12,000. but 80% pay only half. which leaves leahy scavenging for another $6 million a year. it's the alumni who close that gap? >> leahy: alumni, business corporations here in town and the philanthropic community. >> pelley: god works in mysterious ways. >> leahy: all the time, all the time. >> pelley: and we discovered something mysterious about leahy. he cringes when you bring up sports.
not because he's losing, his basketball team is ranks 12th nationally and his soccer team is first in the nation. but leahy believes it is education that saves lives. devionne johnson was a sophomore we met in his downtown neighborhood. >> devionne johnson: this neighborhood is gang infested. >> pelley: devionne lives with his grandmother, a mile from st. benedict's and a doorstep from trouble. you know when we drove up here and we got out in the parking lot, we couldn't help but notice this. nine-millimeter right here in front of your house. >> johnson: yeah. >> pelley: you hear gunfire around here much? >> johnson: yeah. >> pelley: what have you seen? >> johnson: ten years in this neighborhood, i feel like i've seen it all. all it is the same situation, different faces. >> pelley: so how do you stay clear of that?
>> johnson: first, you have to realize what type of person you want to be in life. >> pelley: devionne realized what kind of person he wanted to be while wandering in the wilderness. each spring, upperclassmen lead new students on a four-day, 55- mile hike. street smarts won't carry you far on the appalachian trail. >> leahy: it's the only class in school that a 98 is a failing grade cause if you only get 98% of the way down the trail, you didn't get to the bus to bring you back home. >> pelley: in devionne's group, one classmate decided 98% was all he had. >> johnson: you got to keep pushing, bro. so i said, "you're not gonna quit in front of the camera. these are-- this is '60 minutes,' don't quit, keep going." so eventually, we finally make
it up this mountain. and i was so relieved. >> pelley: at the summit they caught a breathtaking view of character. >> johnson: i'm just really excited to be here and i really want you all to know that i love all y'all. y'all my brothers. >> bring it in! >> leahy: most of the problems in this country with, in urban america have nothing to do and especially in schools, have nothing to do with intellect. a lot of it has to do with emotional noise that these kids suffer. so it's a big challenge for us and to get the kids to realize their potential, the fact that they are a gift to somebody else. not easy. >> pelley: this is what he means. >> my dad got locked up again.
>> pelley: the key for a lot of the boys is intensive counseling, including group sessions, led by psychologist ivan lamourt. >> as soon as i get angry, people laugh. and i want to do is start slamming people. >> ivan lamourt: there's no way that i can expect a student to sit in a classroom and learn algebra or religion or any other subject when they're in extreme distress, when they're emotionally broken. >> pelley: when you have a teenage boy, a problem by definition, but he has been hurt in his life. how do you get through? >> lamourt: all about connectedness. all about teaching that young man that we're not going anywhere. because it's not us against them. it's us here, against them, out there. >> davis: i tell people all the time i've seen dead people come to life. talk about resurrection, guys who couldn't talk.
if you begin to get them to a point where they can work on it and talk about it takes a lot of time, grades will pop right up. >> pelley: who do you not reach? >> leahy: there's a lot of kids you don't reach. >> pelley: each year, about a dozen boys leave. but in a city where the high school drop out rate is about 30%, saint benedict's is 2%. >> pelley: one of the things we don't want to happen here is for us to lose guys. that means we failed, like we failed them because we could not help them out to the point where they could stay. >> pelley: can't save everyone. >> davis: not, you know everybody. but we try to save as many as possible. >> pelley: which brings us back to those exceptions to the entrance exam we mentioned. andrew brice, number 14 in the blue cap had wandered from family to foster home to the street. two years ago, he was a stranger who snuck into water polo
practice and asked for help. when you went to the coach and said, "i have trouble at home, i've been sleeping on the street, i'm not making it in the school that i'm in, i want to come here," what did he say? >> brice: monday you should be in school. >> pelley: "be here monday" turned out the coach was trained in lifesaving. almost no questions asked. >> brice: oh, there were questions. >> pelley: andrew now lives on the monastery grounds, one of six students who have nowhere else to go. he hopes to make his way as a professional dancer. and from the looks of it, he's off on the right foot. he came here off a hard road. >> davis: yeah. it's been hard. he's not a quitter, you know. and that's another motto. benedict's hates a quitter. >> pelley: quitting is rare. 98% graduate and 85% earn a college degree.
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>> sharyn alfonsi: 37-year old bubba watson is one of the best golfers in the world. he's left-handed and self- taught. he's won the masters twice, is closing in on $40 million in career earnings, and plans to be part of the u.s. golf team competing in the olympics in rio. he's one of longest hitters on the pga tour, as well as one of the most creative shot-makers. but as we learned when we first reported this story in april, bubba watson is also one of the most complicated and polarizing personalities in the game of golf. >> bubba watson: easy game,
boys, easy game. >> alfonsi: bubba watson makes it look easy. at estancia, a private club in scottsdale, arizona, he's playing a round with his wife angie. >> watson: that's my partner! get up! go! >> alfonsi: his longtime tour caddy ted scott, and his childhood friend now his accountant randall wells. a relaxed foursome, with a trio of "60 minutes" camera crews tagging along. >> watson: i love it. you gonna go right there? i love it. don't worry though. if it hits you, you won't even know it. 190 miles an hour, you won't even feel it. >> alfonsi: this is "bubba golf." a dash of juvenile, a dash of genius, and a full cup of cocky. >> watson: oh! that's a par. stay one up. >> alfonsi: are they allowed to beat you? >> watson: oh, they're allowed. they just can't. >> ted scott: in ten years of playing, you know, golf with him and caddying for him, really, he's only hit the ball bad a few times. so i don't really know where
that comes from, but he's just-- he's a physical genius, you know, when it comes to his ability. >> alfonsi: watson doesn't like the driving range, and hates talking about technique. he just plays. he's one of the longest hitters on tour; his drives with that playful pink club average 315 yards, and he hardly ever hits the ball straight. everything's a hook or a slice, a fade or a draw. >> alfonsi: what have you seen him do? >> rickie fowler: pretty much everything possible on a golf course or that you thought might be impossible. >> alfonsi: fellow pro rickie fowler is also a close friend. >> fowler: it's pretty amazing what he can do. he is a freak. >> alfonsi: the best example of that freakish talent came in one of the most famous shots in masters history, on the second hole of a playoff in 2012.
watson's drive landed in the pine straw. >> watson: when i hit it in the woods, i was devastated. my shoulders went down. i was done. then i get over there. when i walk down there, i see the crowd has made a path so i could pull this shot off, big hook. >> jim nantz: did it hook? oh, what a shot! >> alfonsi: how hard of a shot was that? >> scott: it really is not that hard a shot for bubba. >> alfonsi: come on. >> scott: no, no, listen to me, listen-- hear me out. for bubba to hook a golf ball 40 yards or whatever it is, that's not that hard for him to do. i mean, he does that for fun. if we would have been just playing golf for fun, i would have just said, "good shot," because i've seen him do that shot before. >> alfonsi: that shot in 2012 produced a two-putt par and his first masters victory. angie had to watch from home with infant son caleb, who they'd adopted just two weeks earlier. they were both there to see watson win his second green jacket two years later.
they've since adopted a daughter, dakota. he's won four tournaments in the last two years. and he's climbed to number five in the world. and the legend is you never took a golf lesson? >> watson: still haven't. >> alfonsi: is that true? >> watson: yep. the physical game is easy. that sounds bad. but it's easy to me. i can do that. i can hit it far. i can curve it. i got the shots. it's just mentally being at that moment, right then. >> alfonsi: and how hard is it to control the mental stuff for you? >> watson: it's getting better. again, it's a process. it's a learning process. i'm getting better at it. >> alfonsi: but it doesn't always look that way. a few petulant outbursts have alienated a lot of people. >> watson: there's just no reason for me to show up. >> alfonsi: in hartford in 2013, microphones picked him up
criticizing ted scott for the nine iron he'd recommended. >> watson: water. it's in the water. because of that club. >> alfonsi: all of a sudden everybody went, "oh, my gosh, bubba watson's a jerk." >> watson: well, so-- with-- with me, i got to get my anger out. don't let it linger. just get it out. and teddy knows. teddy will-- he always jokes, "ten seconds. give bubba ten seconds, he's good." >> alfonsi: ten seconds for bubba, but it's left a lasting impression with some fans. >> scott: my wish is that people wouldn't just be quick to judge over that moment in hartford. and i'll say this on tv, about-- i'd say probably 80% of the guys bash their caddies verbally on the tour. >> alfonsi: 80%? >> scott: guys that would be labeled the nicest guy on tour bashing his caddy. why is that? because it's pressure. you can't take it personally. if you're thin skinned, you-- you don't need to caddy, because trust me, you're going to get it. you know, it's just part of the job. >> alfonsi: perhaps, but when pga players were asked last year which of their fellow golfersthp
in a fistfight, watson finished first. >> watson: first time i heard this question or this poll came out was nobody wants to help bubba in a fight. and i say, "well, everybody thinks i'm tough. i like it." and my caddy, teddy said, "no, that's not what they mean." >> alfonsi: you missed it, bud. >> watson: i said-- ( laughs ) but that's what i'm going with. and he said-- he said, "people don't like you." and he said the reason what teddy told me is the reason why they don't like you, or they just don't understand you. because you're nuts. >> alfonsi: were you surprised to hear that people didn't like you. >> watson: nah. >> alfonsi: bubba watson insists he's not trying to rub people the wrong way. it's just tough for him to be in his own skin sometimes. >> watson: i have a lot of mental issues that i-- i just am so fearful of things, which i shouldn't be, right? scared of heights. scared of buildings falling on me. scared of the dark. scared of crowds. those are my biggest issues. >> alfonsi: how do you reconcile that when you have to go out there and play golf with hundreds of people all around you? >> watson: you know, in between
holes is really scary to me because there's so many people that close to you. >> alfonsi: scary? >> watson: yes. >> alfonsi: what are you scared of? >> watson: i'm just scared of people. it's just in general. >> scott: he's scared of everything, everything. >> alfonsi: ted scott learned of bubba's fears the first time they worked together, ten years ago. >> scott: there was a ten-year- old kid who-- who asked for his autograph and we were out in the middle of nowhere and, you know, nobody really knew who bubba was at the time. he was-- he was a rookie on tour. and this kid walked up to him and he just kind of ignored him like he didn't see him, and i thought, "man, what a jerk." but then, as i got to know him, i realized even that young kid coming up to him as someone bubba doesn't know is a fearful situation for him. and it sounds crazy, but it's crazy because it's not our fear. >> alfonsi: he's legitimately fearful of people he doesn't know? >> scott: very fearful of that, absolutely. >> alfonsi: that kind of fear would be enough to deal with, but watson's nerve endings also seem to be closer to the surface than in most people. >> watson: there's your boy over there. do you see him? you see him. >> scott: i see him. >> scott: bubba notices everything. he'll be looking at me and say, "look over your right shoulder, there's a guy with a red shirt
and a blue cap and he's got his phone underneath that thing." and i'm like-- i mean, there's 3,000 people, i-- i can't even find them. he's like, "no, right there, man." >> alfonsi: he did it with us, during a break in our interview. >> watson: when we're doing this interview do you hear them like clicking a pen, and tapping? >> alfonsi: no, do you? >> watson: i hear them all the time. i'm like, can they hear that on the microphone? and this thing over here keeps flickering. you hear that? >> alfonsi: no. >> watson: gosh! >> scott: whew, man, he is a mess. >> alfonsi:( laughs ) a mess? >> scott: yeah, he's a mess, but he's a fun mess, you know? i think bubba is-- is an extremely emotional person, but 95% of the time that's happiness. >> alfonsi: bubba watson's emotions are most closely connected to one person. tell me about your dad. >> watson: umm ( cries ) >> alfonsi: gerry watson was an army combat veteran, a green beret in vietnam. he died in 2010. >> watson: my dad was a hard worker, very dedicated to his family.
um, very smart. didn't like to-- didn't like to be told what to do. kind of where i get my stuff from. one of the things that i've learned from my dad is, good or bad, is not to trust. >> alfonsi: you mentioned that he would sit with his back always-- he always wanted to be in the corner looking out. and-- and you're kind of the same way? >> watson: i-- i-- yeah, i've learned it from him. he didn't want people behind him. because he wanted to always watch. he wanted to see what people were doing, just because of-- i'm guessing because of-- the stuff he's been through in his life. >> alfonsi: did he ever talk about that stuff? >> watson: no, he didn't talk about it. >> alfonsi: bubba watson won his first pga tournament in june 2010. his dad died four months later. >> watson: first time i hugged my dad was when i got home that night from the red-eye when he said he had cancer. >> alfonsi: the first time in your life? >> watson: first time. but it wasn't because my dad didn't love me. it wasn't because-- it's just my upbringing, right?
>> alfonsi: his upbringing was more country than country club, raised in the tiny panhandle town of bagdad, florida, just outside pensacola. >> watson: so this is tanglewood. >> alfonsi: tanglewood golf club is a public course a few miles from bagdad, and the first place bubba watson ever played. hiram cook has run it off and on for more than 30 years. >> watson: when my dad came in, i was six years old, he said, "hey, do you know anybody that's-- do you have left handed clubs?" so he said, "i'm the head pro and i'm-- i'm left handed." and so he gave me a nine iron, or gave my dad the nine iron and my dad cut it down and put the grip on it. >> hiram cook: bubba was a permanent resident after-- after that. >> alfonsi: tanglewood is also where he learned to "bend it like bubba," around all those pine trees. he was a junior golf champion, then played at the university of georgia, where he also met his wife angie. golf has taken bubba watson all over the world. now he's bringing his family home. he's renovating a house in
pensacola, bought a stake in the local minor league baseball team, and is planning to open "bubba's sweet shop" downtown. >> alfonsi: so you're really gonna open a candy shop? >> watson: yeah. >> alfonsi: are you an eight year old boy because this is what i'm starting to get-- >> watson: if you think about it- >> alfonsi: you've got a baseball team and a candy shop. >> watson: my wife's not lettin' me buy cars anymore, so i've got to change it up. >> alfonsi: watson's childlike nature is confirmed online. his 1.5 million twitter followers are regularly treated to goofy photos, and this youtube video of him using a hovercraft as a golf cart has nearly ten million views. >> watson: it takes you everywhere you want to go. through sand traps, through waters, shortcuts. >> alfonsi: in this music video, watson put on a "hillbilly meets sasquatch" look and joined three other pros including rickie fowler to raise money for charity. >> watson: ♪ let the bogeys go! i say hey! oh la la la la. >> rickie fowler: i mean, he's like a 12-year-old kid stuck in an older person's body now. and caleb's catching up to him. it's gonna be a tough-- it's gonna be a close one here soon-- >> alfonsi: at age four? >> fowler: yeah.
>> angie watson: when his fun meter gets low-- >> alfonsi: his fun meter? >> angie watson: his fun meter. i like to call it his fun-- he just always likes to be having fun. so i would say yes, he's definitely-- he's definitely a big kid. >> alfonsi: that childlike mind allows him to tap into his imagination, creating shots others can't see, let alone pull off. will he win another masters? >> scott: it's likely. he doesn't like expectations, so don't tell him i said that, but he just sets up so well for everything he loves, you know? and an artist wants to see eye- popping, he wants to see differences. and when you go to augusta, i mean, the grass is so green. then you go to the brown pine straw, and then you got the azaleas and the dog woods and then the sand is so white. and there's slopes and there's mounds and you got all this stuff going on, so all that alone is just bringing out the kid in bubba, you know, he just gets there and it's like, "oh, yeah," everything he likes, okay? >> alfonsi: you said an artist loves color. you think he's an artist? >> scott: yes. oh, he's an artist for sure. i'm just carrying the brushes. >> alfonsi: bubba watson would
like another green jacket. but he says there's something else he'd like more. >> watson: i don't care about a golfer. i don't care about getting better as a golfer. i want to be better as a person. >> alfonsi: it's important to you that people think you're a good guy. >> watson: right. right. >> announcer: hear bubba watson's emotional story of his first masters win. >> i was on cloud nine. >> announcer: go to: 60minutesovertime.com i'm phil mickelson, pro golfer. my psoriatic arthritis caused joint pain.
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